(inb4 "Goku total didn't sandbag the fuck out of every fight with his friends leading up to the tournament", because he did), [–]Trofulds 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago* (0 children). In Dragon Ball Z: Sagas, in the mission "Piccolo's Fusion", after fusing with Kami, Piccolo then engages in battle with Android 17. Piccolo (jr) was just recombining with Kami to become whole again. Neil Express gratitude at Piccolo’s power, who at this point is still wearing his weighted clothing. Submission Guidelines Buying or selling. Submitted content should be directly related to Dragon Ball, and not require a title to make it relevant. If we assume he didn't get any stronger from his fight against Nappa and he stayed at around 1,000, then the increase he had with Nail was around a 1000 times since he was stronger than 2nd Form Freeza who was at over a million. [–]Randymgreen 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Overview. If Piccolo went from Android #20 level to Android #17 level by fusing with Kami (one Namekian), and from weaker than 100,000 to around 2nd Form Frieza (1,000,000+), then Piccolo should multiply by 2 to 10 times in Power per fusion. Piccolo and Kami used to be an entirely different person, whose name is still unknown. 18vwas weaker than 17 so we know by extension he's certainly stronger than her at least. However, I also thought that he would then be able to become much stronger now that he became a whole being and more...but obviously Toriyama didn't see it that way, [–]Blugrave 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). He was almost equal to 17. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 7708 on r2-app-0de74451744eded77 at 2020-12-24 00:57:30.758126+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: US. Which in turn means that after fusing with Nail, Piccolo's power was increased by a measly 5%. Figures can be submitted during Merch Mondays. Look at Piccolo and Nail, for example, where Nail wasn't any higher than 42,000 and Piccolo, while strong, was likely only in the low ten thousands at best as well. Throwback to when I took my kids to see Broly in theatres. Grand Elder Guru remarking him to be a prodigy amongst prodigies, after fusing with Nail he was able to combat and gain the upperhand over Frieza and is even strong enough to stand up to Super Saiyans. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Piccolo’s Power Level during the Saiyan Saga reached height of 3500, when he reached a level far beyond what either Kami or Demon King Piccolo were at, even in their peak. When creating a topic to discuss new spoilers, put a warning in the title, and keep the title itself spoiler free. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Their fusion resulted in beings much stronger than Piccolo's original strength as the Nameless Namekian, he had to train for years to reach the level the U6 Namekians were at after fusing with most of their people. Kami was piccolo's second half, and he was stated to be an impressive namekian. Spoilers for the current chapter of the Dragon Ball Super manga must be tagged outside of dedicated discussion threads. Fusion with New Future Kami and New Future Piccolo Piccolo used the Namekian Fusion with New Future Kami in his Armoured Form, and New Future Piccolo in Piccolo's Armour. Politics. We were THIS close to having a Great Saiyaman 3. Remember how Frieza’s third form beat Piccolo effortlessly? Vegeta struggled a bit fighting Android 19 and Goku with heart virus was beaten by Android 19. >!spoiler!<. Astonishing doesn't imply at all that Piccolo is stronger than Nail. (self.dbz). The difference in power between 19 and 17 is not a 1000 times difference. There's two ways to scale Pirina, since after Gohan punched Saonel into the ground he was fighting off both of them evenly at the same time and then there's the beam struggle they were holding during the climax, so highballing, Pirina would be equal to Gohan. Powers/Abilities With this power-up, he is able to fight against Android 17 evenly for a short period of time. Except it was stated by the narrator that Gohan's power rivaled that of SSB Goku and Gohan had multiple showings in the ToP like overpowering Koichiarator with his limit breaking Kamehameha, who was evenly holding a beam struggle against SSB Goku and Vegeta and he was fighting evenly against Dyspo, who was strong enough to push SSG Goku to Blue and was damaging Golden Freeza. In this form, he takes a silver electric aura. When Kami and Piccolo Jr finally reunited, with piccolo being much stronger than the original Daimao, the reborn true Namekian regained his true power that was lost to him. The evil half was reborn and trained up from dogshit to being impressive to the best warrior on Namek. You may submit Fanart once a week (7 days). There were actuslly 3 kids losing their minds that day. He wouldn't have had that chance with 17, who even commented that they were only equal with piccolo quickly starting to slow down. Its not nearly definitive. Saonel and Pirina had to fuse with potentially hundreds of fellow Namekians to even stand a chance against Piccolo. The increase didn't shoot him very far, yes he was stronger than the Super Saiyans and initially Cell's first form, but couldn't quite surpass 17 and 18. Quizzes/polls/petitions. I dont think that nearly implies what you think it does but thanks for the source. Piccolo and Kami is not like other kinds of fusion, or a simple powerups. Direct upload only. He also wears baggy white pants with a blue sash and the brown pointed boots common amongst his race. I drew this because I'm still riding on the Gogeta hype train! The Nameless Namekian is supposed to be on par with the mythical super Saiyan (not Broly, the one Vegeta talks about in the Namek Saga). The best comparison would be the Legendary Super Saiyan to the Saiyans and Frieza compared to his father and the rest of his race. After struggling to be useful on the field due to him lacking enough power to compete with his enemies, Piccolo strikes back after fusing with Kami, ready to help his allies thanks to his all new capabilities. Prohibited Topics Both participants must willingly consent to fuse in this manner and usually the pair agrees to the stronger of the two to serve their body as the host; the reason for this consent is that the body of the absorbed Namekian disappears during this fusion and th… - Barter Bear, DKC3 Dallas Mavericks 2011 NBA champions. Hell no. QuestionCan someone explain Piccolos fusion with Kami to me? Is there a rule about Namekian fusion that I missed? Later in the after his training in preparation for the Androids, he easily dominates Android 20 and after re-fusing with Kami, he could easily defeat Imperfect Celland … Combine that with the fact that they were originally the same being, and the whole merging was just that more potent. comment as so:   Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. 17 would have got cocky because he thought he'd have it in the bag due to piccolos stamina beginning to fade sightly. Fusion isn't just additive, it multiplies power as well. I don't think Toriyama ever gave Kami a real name for some reason, maybe he couldn't think of a good one. You have an astonishing amount of power... [–]SSJRemuko 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children). [–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 years ago (10 children). Piccolo got a huge power boost when he fused with Neil, so if you add to that the original half of piccolo you get another great boost. The Nameless Namekian is special, that's wh the bost he got was so impressive.. [–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (0 children), [–]Orannegsen 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children), The Nameless Namekian was Dragon Clan right? The second one was way way bigger. This has been on my mind for awhile now. Rendered by PID 7708 on r2-app-0de74451744eded77 at 2020-12-24 00:57:30.758126+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: US. [–]Caryslan 27 points28 points29 points 2 years ago (7 children). Piccolo received another massive upgrade in the Cell Saga when Kami fused with Piccolo to become one being again. Nail is over 10x stronger than the second strongest on his planet, so Piccolo being anywhere above those other guys could warrant such a phrase. Nail(42k)