THE POWER GOGETA IS GIVING OFF IS BEYOND REAL!! Gogeta should win. Beerus would take this mid to high dif. Whis literally stated that Jiren when supressed was. @phantasial: Stop it, go back to wanking Naruto. I don't see Beerus stomping Broly like Gogeta did. In Xenoverse, pairing Gogeta against Beerus will make Beerus say "Hohoho! B). Gogeta would probably win. Probably > Might. There wasn't any of the sort saying that Broly was stronger than Beerus. You did, and still haven't provided any evidence. Goku's power scaling was never 100% correct. MUI Goku surpasses Beerus and Jiren was able to swap hands with MUI Goku. And Jiren is the only being next to Goku Ultra Instinct that's shown to be able to can fight on par with Beerus' level. Who wins? ready to take you anytime. This means ssg goku was around 2,100,000,000. That literally makes no sense whatsoever. IF Beerus and Gogeta ever fights Beerus will still win since he's never brought out his true power in a match. @deathwingterminatort1000: Please tell me how SSJ4 Gogeta does not stand up to SSB Goku, @deathwingterminatort1000: yea ik lol I was just fucking around with that post lmao. Beerus in the manga pretty much bested the entire other Gods of Destruction and also without trying whatsoever one hit KO'ED Vegeta in his Mastered Super Saiyan Blue form, a form that's on par with Vegito Blue and he took Vegeta out in one shot, that's when he was serious, to teach Vegeta a lesson to not be cocky. MUI Goku was around Beerus full power and likely a bit stronger. And? Still gogeta via scaling. @tony501: In the manga:Belmod is able to damage all of the Gods of Destruction by capturing them in Imprisonment Balls and attacking with Energy Cards. I have stated that Goku was only comparing it to Beerus when he was fighting with him at the start of the Super series when attained his God form. GG. So we can say that Goku is the least reliable power scaler in Dragon Ball (DB) franchise. I … Manga Beerus knows Ultra Instinct (Omen), and judging how full powered Broly couldn't even touch a casual Whis. Not bad at all! @karkus: I asked you to provide proof first.If you can provide evidence to say that Broly is on Beerus' level then I will find it secondly... Marketing and announcement hypes don't count... @chasekilleen: I never claimed Broly was on Beerus's level. Well, all of those words mean more or less the same thing, as I'm sure you know. Goku Super Saiyan Blue/Kaioken forced Hit out of his dimensions twice. Base Gogeta (DBS) vs. Vegito Blue (DBS) Considering how insane and ludicrous the scaling and power creep between each arc is in DBS, I thought this would be an interesting match. And questioned "How a mortal can release this much Ki?". Gogeta Blue stomped someone comparable to Beerus without much effort, meaning Gogeta is likely much stronger than that. cat dies. @pickle-o: SSJ4 Gogeta is from GT and likely would not know this. Even if he did, this is a battle between him and Beerus, he's not gonna let him leave and find the Supreme Kai. Already did. Jiren heavily surpressed scared Beerus, to the point that he was sweating and was nearly in despair. Made Goku scared just by showing 'a hint' of his true power. The strongest SS4, Gogeta, fodderized Omega Shenron....who did nothing noteworthy. In Super, it's never stated which percentage Beerus actually used so it's difficult to judge. His single best attack that took years upon years of stored energy, was only going to destroy the universe by polluting it with negative ki and rotting it over time. The same can't be said while fighting Broly. SSJ Broly was also the one who fought Golden Frieza, not LSSJ Broly, who was compared to Beerus. Buu used Vice Shout to collapse dimensional walls and pass through them, Gogeta and Broly were shattering entire dimensions. Gogeta effortlessly stomped a Beerus level enemy, he annihilates here since Beerus doesn’t get ridiculously stronger through the course of a fight like Broly does. Frieza was still in his transformation and he was not even fatally wounded. Jiren would easily thrash Broly when he's heavily surpressed. Now, go to 3:06 and see that Whis already knew Jiren was far from full power. I don’t think it’d be easy, but this one would go to Broly and Jiren. SSJ4 Gogeta vs. Beerus. If Jiren beats the team, then Beerus gets erased. Because Super Saiyen God or ssg goku was 70% of beerus. He's also had the training of Whis, and Angel and the most powerful being in Universe 6 (I think it's 6, maybe 7). Broly on the other hand neither made Beerus bat an eye, nor did he make Goku and Vegeta break their own limits and also Goku and Vegeta never used their Kaioken and Evolution (respectively) So we can definitely say that didn't try their absolute hardest. @tony501: Belmod never got injured and in the anime he beat Beerus in arm wrestling and in both anime and manga Belmod is implied to be stronger than Beerus. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Whilst Jiren was heavily supressed. Knowing Beerus he wouldn't just stand by when he senses someone stronger than him. Tbh we could get clear confirmation on who wins if toei can tell us who's stronger between Vegito and beerus. This is a big difference between "You might be stronger" than "On-par or entered the domains and POTENTIALLY even surpassing it" Moreover Jiren's tiny little amount of Ki released made Beerus sweat like a piss fountain and when he released a "hint of his true power" made Goku revert back to his base form, because he has realised the gap between them. User Info: SwadeDBFan2. There are battles on this forum with SSJB Vegito vs Beerus. So yeah he might legit be near Angle tier. His power will be retconned until he's more powerful than Zeno, Seriously Goku should wipe the floor with him by realistic scaling even without UI, OT: I think it's been established that Super>GT in terms of power so Beerus should win. During the Super's [Revival of F arc.] 30,000,000 x 100 = 3 billion. Really, nothing to compare to Jiren and Toppo's feats, nor Mastered UI and C). Judging by what we see in the movie Gogeta Blue hasn't shown anything that's comparable to Jiren in Tournament of Power. there was no mention of a ''mortal'' part, universe only. Gogeta was powerful, but more powerful than Beerus is bogus, since A). Not to mention he wasn’t busting the universe, he was merely ripping through the barriers to parallel dimensions until the universe collapsed. @karkus: I never said Beerus stomps Broly. IF Beerus and Gogeta ever fights Beerus will still win since he's never brought out his true power in a match. He was just chilling and keeping an eye on everyone's Ki.He only said "Looks like they have managed it". Gogeta and Broly hasn't even shown anything that's close to what Jiren was capable of during the Tournament of Power. He thrashed Goku Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken X20 and tanked in hits from Goku Kaioken Blue and Vegeta Blue Evolution whilst still surpressed. Even base super goku solostomps GT. Going by feats for one character while scaling for the other is stupid, especially when Beerus(the character with feats) would scale massively above Buuhan as well. Using what Dragon Ball Nation said (I don't know his real name) Whis would be 80% SSJ4 Gogeta.So,Gogeta goes 100%,toys with Whis a little,then takes the fight seriously and ultimately,wins with a couple of scratches.Now,since Dragon Ball Super is out,why not cover Champa and Vados and the Omniking. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It meant the destruction of his universe if his team loses. Beerus playing around with him is reminiscent of 50% Frieza playing around with Namek-Saga Goku which was a power level difference of only ~20x. SSJG was already at the very least hundreds of times more powerful than SSJ3 Goku, and on top of that, SSJB is significantly more powerful than SSJG. what's an Infinite of nothing? SSJ Broly isn't even stronger than SSJ Gogeta, who isn't that much stronger than 50x SSB Goku (Base Gogeta being around SSB Goku's level) which is nothing to ToP Omen Goku and Jiren. God Ki is needed in this fight, and even if SSJ4 Gogeta can damage hum with punches and kicks, it still most likely will be weaker than Beerus. Furthermore, Full power SSJ Broly couldn’t even land a single finger on Gogeta once he used SSB. He has seen Beerus going all out in the manga (GoDs battle royale) and in the anime (Beerus vs Champa). Beerus utterly stomps. Not the same as straight up busting a universe. And if they did I dare you to quote me from the movie/Toriyama or Toyotaro/any legitimate proof from a credible source to say that Broly and Gogeta was on Beerus' level. I personally like Gogeta more, so for me, he wins. In the anime Whis implied and in the manga Belmod was the only God of Destruction to dominate several other Gods of destruction. Did the authors make Trunks overpowered for no particular reason other than fanservice? spamming is not gonna change that. Since Champa is weaker than Beerus,I put him 30% SSJ4 Gogeta. In Tournament of Power, Whis personally said that: "His powers has reached the domains of a God of Destruction or potentially has even surpassed it" when Jiren only released a bit of his Ki or that he was supressed heavily. It's pretty much been implied both in the manga and anime that Belmod is more powerful than Beerus. You can't compare Beerus especially since, he has never shown his full strength. We have not seen the true power of Beerus yet.This debate might never be answered, since there's technically no right or wrong answers. In the manga he was the only one who never got injured and in the anime he has beaten Beerus in arm wrestling challenge. When Jiren was heavily supressed, Whis states that 'His power enters the domain of the God of Destruction, or even surpassed it'. Gogeta and UI Goku both bodied someone, one stated to be > beerus, the other => beerus. -The only thing they know about each other is that Beerus is a god of destruction, and that SSJ4 Gogeta is a fusion of 2 saiyans ; And that each might be stronger than anything they've faced before. Made Goku scared just by showing 'a hint' of his true power.Gogeta/Broly did none of that even remotely close to what Jiren did when heavily surpressed try again. Then Gogeta f*#ed around on Broly, so that puts Gogeta around Beerus level aswell, maybe above it, but its safest to say that he's 'around' that level. They never said MUI "might" be stronger than Beerus, https://twitter.com/KenXyro/status/1026341411283763202. It only said "Mightiest vs. Mightiest" and "Strongest enemy they ever faced.". ", while Gogeta will say "Maybe I can win against Lord Beerus now." SSJ4 Gogeta, or Vegito if he existed, don't stand a chance. He was comparing Jiren to Beerus'power as a God of Destruction at that time when he said that, naturally because he is Beerus' teacher and mentor, so he knows his strengths and weaknesses. So,SSJ4 Gogeta does the same thing like last time except,he toys around with him more and goes 50%.Since Vados is stronger than Whis,I put her at 90% SSJ4 Gogeta. ... least equal to Gogeta if not stronger since Beerus wasn't even that interested even when he sensed both Broly's and Gogeta's power. Perhaps Gogeta could damage him, but I just think that he's above him. Not with collision. Beyond that fight, Goku has never saw what Beerus is capable of (anime). @karkus: Go to 3:20...He literally says that his power is on a God of Destruction or surpassed it. I can see what you were going for, beerus and goku weren't busting the universe either, they were causing magical waves that didn't bust the universe either. @chasekilleen: Vegito in the Black Arc was said to rival Beerus by Shin in the manga, I feel like Post ToP he surpassed him given the fact it was said Gogeta=Vegito in one of the guid book I saw once for the movie, there is also the fact Jiren is confirmed by the angels to be high GoD Tier And stronger than Belmod who I believe is in the Top 5 strongest GoDs with Beerus and quitela at the Top with Jiren in their level more or less(Beerus can’t be that much stronger than Belmod) And Broly is evry bit as strong as Jiren or maybe more in raw power given Freiza’s statement and Goku’s as well, he also outmatched SSj Gogeta who is already in the GoDs range of power given the fact his base form is stronger than Blue Goku/Vegeta by the lock on piccolo when they fuse, Now Broly does lack the skills and experience Beerus has but Gogeta power is so great he can overcome it with nearly equal skills anyway given the fact he has Goku and Vegeta but I still favor Beerus due to UI, Hakai can be a factor but I think Gogeta will overpower it like Vegeta did to Toppo, UI is also a factor but unless he has its mastered form Beerus won’t beat him tho I feel like he has something under his sleeve given how unthreatened he was from Broly/Jiren when he encounters them tho MUI Goku did made him give his respect but there was no fear as tho Goku become his equal and not his superior, in the end Gogeta has to much power to lose his skills are enough to compete with any GoDs and just like Jiren didn’t need UI to match Goku so doesn’t Gogeta need to beat Beerus who’s only chance is if in fact he has mastered UI and keeps everyone in the dark for sports as he usually does when he fights given how strong he is. Makes sense. @tony501: Belmod is stronger than Beerus. you claim it's dumb despite seeing inferior feats...so, feats > scaling. And go to 3:06. In August of last year, it was said that Broly was stronger than Beerus. Beerus power level at 100% is around 3 billion. It evidently concludes that they don't think of Broly as a threat (universally) in anyway. If Broly was on Beerus'level, you would think the least he can do is gravely injure Frieza? Gogeta vs Beerus Power Levels - Dragon Ball Super - YouTube I'd be sweating too. ?Do you not understand synonyms?? I never said he did. That just evidently means that he was comparing it to Beerus, when he said that Jiren is on par with a God of Destruction. He only said "probably" and "might" when he was comparing it Beerus. SSJ4 Gogeta isn't even on a level with SSB Goku, and normal ki can't damage Beerus, you need God Ki. Boosting Omega Shenron's power level to Beerus level won't be enough for a victory for Omega. All you doing is giving implications and marketing hype from the movie's trailers and announcements. Beerus utterly stomps. where his Universe is in danger of being erased where he and Whis can't intervene. Broly didn’t reach full power until his fight with SSJ Gogeta. Not the same as straight up busting a universe. It was heavily implied that in both manga and anime that Belmod is stronger than Beerus. @karkus: Might and Probably are the same? @mainjp: You still haven't shown any feats nor evidence saying that Gogeta is stronger.Jiren still had better feats than Gogeta and Broly's fight. Omega was able to regenerate after a Big Bang Kamehameha from a massively stronger SSJ4 Gogeta so at equal power levels Omega should be able to regenerate from what Beerus has to throw at him. The fact he took years to build that much energy shows OS himself is actually even weaker than that, so beating him isn't really much of an achievement here. SSJB Vegito or Gogeta- if that ever happened, would be a way better match up. filler is canon to GT so i'm not sure why it's brought up. I can't wait for the day we see a serious Beerus. In 2 or 3 hits, he dominated Frieza and KO'ED him in an instant. The only time he was serious was when he fought with Goku God form. That is a much better debate. @mainjp: When Broly attacked Frieza in his Golden form for an hour, not only Frieza didn't sustain any life threatening injuries, but Frieza was still in his Golden form.Toppo a God of Destruction in training, theorectically the weakest God of Destruction, absolutely thrashed Frieza without trying whatsoever and Jiren knocked Frieza out cold in one shot.Gogeta smashing dimensions is nothing new since Super Buu nearly succeded in doing that whilst Gohan was absorbed.That's not impressive at all... Jiren's 'hint of his true power' made Goku revert back to his base form, because he realized how powerful he truly was and Vegeta said that Jiren's Ki was the 'heaviest ki I have ever felt'. You were the one who claimed Beerus >>> Broly, but haven't provided any evidence. Bias against GT or Super aside, who would win? Powers and Stats. @karkus: People are using Goku's statement where he said "You might/probably stronger than our Beerus." There's nothing outright saying that he's on Beerus'level, again that's not Beerus' level. Again, you literally have no proof whatsoever. amrite? then again gogeta can just kill the supreme kai and easily neg, Beerus grabs Gogeta by hair and says hakai. Even if you disagree the basis of your argument is still dumb, cause both Gogeta and Beerus scale far above Buuhan. @deathwingterminatort1000: Gogeta only lasts 15 minutes max in Ssj4 so he doesn't even have the standard 30 minutes. Blue is an absolute mismatch tho... @chasekilleen: It was said by the director Frieza had shown growth from the ToP to Broly movie. Universe 7 wasn’t a concept until DBS so it’s universal designation isn’t relevant. Just can't imagine the power level of something like SSGSS3 Vegito or some crazy shit like that. "How can a mortal release this much Ki"? SSJB Gogeta roflstomped a Beerus level fighter. There's nothing to shake in a void. Meanwhile SSB is an advancement of a form that could physically destroy the universe with shockwaves from physical attacks. In my honest opinion it's Beerus. Beerus, Super powerscaling is greater than GT's one. Super never stated how many %% Beerus was using, so he could he using 20% - 30% as an incredibly rough estimate. The threat was the after-effect, and only over time. He has Whis to protect him, and is a good match for Broly himself. beerus locks at universal. I'm not here to let you blow smoke up my butt and tell me otherwise.Provide me with evidence or don't claim otherwise especially if you have nothing to backup your claim...I am still waiting for proof that Broly is on Beerus' level... @karkus: Try again...You don't know anything about the English language. so threats are feats now? That's an amazing power! He only said "Looks like they have managed it". It all depends on who the authors like more, and its been like this for quite a while now. what is this a joke? there is no scaling that puts him above that. Universe 7 wasn’t a concept until DBS so it’s universal designation isn’t relevant. It's just a gag episode, Champa and Beerus were never serious. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed to defeat Broly. Furthermore, many, many times has Goku been mistaken about his own and other people's power, he either always over/under estimates it. @karkus: What? No. Goku base and Beerus had the potential to destroy the entire universe just by colliding their fists and God form the impact of their fists destroyed solar systems. As you can see, there is no reasonable arguement that can put Gogeta anywhere near the kind of power even an SSB possesses, much less Beerus. So Arale is stronger than Vegeta and Goku is she? Jiren was way stronger than the team of U7 at the time. SS4 gogeta (dozens of times stronger)> SS4 goku (probably stronger) >= SS vegito > Buuhan (universal). Now if by multiplying 10 by 30 mill = 10% then multiplying 100 = 100%. Yes. Beerus one shots all of GT. As we all know Whis is a teacher/mentor of a God of Destruction, so he knows pretty much every nooks and cranny regarding the powers of a God of Destruction. The Super never stated how much power Beerus even used when fighting Goku God form.The movie said close to 70%, but clearly he was bluffing, but that statement is full of crap anyway, since when Super anime came out, it retconned that entire statement.The only mortal beings capable of beating Beerus are Goku Mastered UI and Jiren and also his limit breaker form. Hit's dimensions were the size of a small building. And Beerus scales of off jiren and goku who shook infinite world of void, so yes he scales higher. @phantasial: Dumb comparison considering Broly and Jiren both trashed stronger versions of SSG Goku, and while yes scaling is more important in cases like that DBS and GT don’t scale to each other which is why feats are more important. Whis literally stated that Jiren when supressed was "in the domains of a God of Destruction or surpassing it" and even Belmod himself in the manga has admitted that Jiren is more powerful than him, combat wise. I never claimed Broly was stronger than Beerus. SSB Gogeta VS UI Goku VS Beerus VS Jiren VS Broly(Battle Royale) Dragon Ball - General This is ... a Spirit Bomb that was stated later in the Tournament to rival SS2 Kefla in raw power, ... since we don't know what level of UI Beerus has access to. beerus is only Universal via feats. Gogeta, one of Dragon Ball's strongest, is the Metamoran fusion of Goku and Vegeta that was introduced to us canonically during Dragon Ball Super: Broly.Being a fusion, this form increases their power level tremendously, as seen in the movie, where they … Beerus via superior inferior feats and even better worst scaling. and it better not be ''my opinion''. That means no Bluff Kamehamehas from SSJ4 Gogeta nor a portion of own's power used by Beerus (AKA Full power used). Thanks, I needed a light- Sanji. And his statement was solely basing it off of the Beerus in [God of Destruction arc]. This isn't like the T.O.P. He literally says that his power is on a God of Destruction or surpassed it. Frieza was literally there for 1 hour fighting Broly and not only was he able to have a few bruises and injury, but he was CONSCIOUS and he WAS IN HIS GOLDEN FORM! Although, there were statements outside the show saying Broly was stronger than a God of Destruction. proof? That was the ever-expanding, strength gaining shockwaves, not the impact. R1: Beerus stomps. so yeah, dozens of times uiversal is High multi universal. The only two mortals that surpasses Beerus are Jiren and Goku with his Mastered Ultra Instinct form. @tony501: Again with the baseless argument, with no proof whatsover...Any links? @thelostshinobi: Repeat thread, but welcome anyway. Goku vs BeerusThanks For WatchingIn this video, I will be diving in on my personal very own personal power levels for DBZ, DBS, DBGT, DBH. ... Was it even stated Brolys power continuously raises? So,Gogeta goes 100% and again,wins with even more scratches.Finally, the Omniking.I say the Omniking is stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta. Intent: To Kill, Gogeta is NOT playing around. He was just chilling and keeping an eye on everyone's Ki. His power remained mostly undefined throughout Super other than being much stronger than SSB. Hope this helped. Just think back to Trunks cleaving Fused Zamasu in half. NEVER has Whis stated that Broly's power was near a God of Destruction's domain, not even remotely close... Beerus has never ever stated how many % he has used during the fight between Goku during his God form. Combine that with a power level that just seems naturally off the chart, and you have one good contender for giving Beerus a hell of a fight. But he has better skill, can use hakai and UIO. Utter. You don't know anything about the English language. The fight between SSJ3 Goku and Beerus was one-sided, but Goku could still track Beerus's movements for the most part. If the two brothers were serious then they would've actually released more of their Ki's. level 1. Lack of evidence. anyways. In the 40 minutes we've seen Jiren broke Goku's and Vegeta's limits many, many times, by giving them a massive Zenkai boost. your argument is headcanon, the ''multiverse'' wasn't a thing, but the fact that the otherworld is a part of the universe was emphasised. Goku stated that Broly might even surpass Beerus. Never claimed otherwise. Bloodmatch. I don't recall Jiren bursting his way out of a dimension via force or anything like that. The 'might' indicates that Broly is 'around' Beerus' level. Goku said that Beerus while sleeping is using his unretstrained power or that in the [Majin Buu arc] he said that he could take out Kid Buu, but his body gave up on him and during the entire fight Kid Buu and Goku SSJ3 was on par with each other. Beerus and Whis themselves even acknoledged that Goku in MUI has already surpassed Beerus. Does that make a lick of sense scaling wise? still nothing. The real debate should be SSJB vegito vs Beerus. And Beerus has never shown his full strength, in the Super anime+manga, it's never stated that which percentage of power Beerus used.If Broly was such a threat to Beerus' position as a God, then why didn't he intervene, nor ever did Whis as well.Whis was merely playing aroud with Broly. @karkus: Even Whis stopped Beerus and Goku's match when they were just merely "sparring". Scaling is you never know indicates that Broly was stronger than Beerus.Because never. Shenron.... who did nothing noteworthy he 's on Beerus'level, again that 's comparable to Beerus without effort. Up busting a universe is an advancement of a small building ever faced. `` even watch of. Might/Probably stronger than Beerus.Because Beerus never worried about Broly ssg Ritual Goku > Jiren/broly weakest God of Destruction more. 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